Barry Gibb - The King?

01/23/2007  //  41 Comments   //   tags: , ,

At this very moment, I'm listening to the Billboard Top 100 of 1978. I randomly came across this selection of hit songs from before I was born. It's pretty impressive that eight out of the top fourteen songs (and 3 out of the top 5) were written by Barry Gibb. In the middle below, his look is a classic, what a pimp. He kind of resembles the new Burger King guy, actually.

The Burger King Guy

I was struck by this claim on Barry's official website:

"As a songwriter he is second only to the Lennon / McCartney relationship."

I'm a fan of Brian Wilson. His album, "Pet Sounds," is consistently ranked at or near #1 for album of all time in various lists. Paul McCartney himself has said several times he think it is the greatest album ever. This is just one of a handful of artists who is impossible to rank in terms of their artistic merit, no matter how much of a fan you may be of them or of yourself.

So, I was surprised by the claim on Barry Gibb's website. Perhaps this is backed up with some objective measure of the money he's made or how his songs have fared on the charts. I'll admit, after listening to "Stayin' Alive" and "Night Fever" among several other great songs, his songwriting ability is pretty amazing. And he does look a lot like the Burger King guy. Decide for yourself: here are Barry Gibb's top eight from 1978:

The Bee Gees
  1. Andy Gibb - Shadow Dancing
  2. Bee Gees - Night Fever
  3. Bee Gees - Stayin' Alive
  4. Bee Gees - How Deep Is Your Love
  5. Andy Gibb - Love is Thicker Than Water
  6. Frankie Valli - Grease
  7. John Travolta and Olivia Newton-John - You're the One That I Want
  8. Samantha Sang and the Bee Gees - Emotion

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Brian Wilson doesn’t hold a candle to Lennon/McCartney.

— bob cannetti · Mar 2, 08:27 AM · #

You can take that opinion and shove it, buddy. Brian Wilson kills both of them and he would also kick their asses in a real fight. He also got fatter than either of them could dream, and that is a true test of someone's genius.

Funny how Barry Gibb rarely finds himself in a debate like this, yet he’s the only one with a claim like that on his website. I don’t have anything against him, it’s just funny.

Andrew Swihart · Mar 2, 05:23 PM · #

Barry Gibb is the top writer of all time, no doubt about it, disco,soul,pop,country,rock..he has done em all

— TEN RECORDS · May 30, 09:17 AM · #

He's great, but I wouldn’t say he’s the “top writer of all time”. If I had to rank, I'd put Brian Wilson in his prime years at number one :).

Andrew Swihart · May 30, 08:51 PM · #

BARRY GIBB IS THE BEST!!!

— CATHY SCHULTZ · Jun 7, 11:51 AM · #

Two Words: Burt Bacharach

— Colin Short · Jul 5, 11:17 AM · #

No denying it. It’s Barry Gibb with over 1,200 songs written and still writing
(suggest you listen to Human Nature’s Love Is Blind)

— Lowell Goldberg · Jul 7, 01:36 PM · #

Lot of BG fans coming this way lately! I like a lot of his stuff too, but I’m not close to putting him at number one, maybe top 5.

This is probably the most pointless "article" I will ever write on this site, other than my other two comedy "articles". Really I just posted this to get a kick out of seeing something I made on the web.

I'm glad it has sparked such an intense debate about the top songwriters of all time though, as this is a question that needs to be settled once and for all ;-).

Andrew Swihart · Jul 7, 02:17 PM · #

The above claim refers to writing credits for #1 singles. Barry Gibb has written 16 #1 Billboard (Hot 100) singles. That puts him third on the all time list for songwriters, behind John Lennon (#2) and Paul McCartney (#1). If you consider Lennon and McCartney as a songwriting team (which is how their songs came into being), then Gibb is second on the all time list. The Bee Gees performed some of the #1 singles, but many were sung by other artists.

— Jake Martin · Feb 8, 08:13 PM · #

Wow, finally an explanation for his claim. I had a feeling it had something to do with how his songs have charted, it just seemed like he was referring to some objective measure.

Thanks Jake, now we all know why Barry Gibb was able to get away with saying that on his website.

Andrew Swihart · Feb 9, 06:15 AM · #

I think Barry has written the most awesome songs in the secular realm of music. You can say what you want, but he is a truly talented writer and singer. I just wish the BeeGees music was played more on radio. Their is a generation who needs to hear this music.

— marcia st.john · Apr 14, 09:23 PM · #

So there you have it. His Website is correct.

Barry Gibb is second only to Lennon/McCartney duo and he’s done it all by himself. What a guy that guy is. And thank you for adding that you actually listened to his lyrics and that they are pretty amazing. They are. As a songwriter, he’s the best. The way he weaves words into a song is pure genius.

— Helen · Jun 26, 07:18 AM · #

dont forget as well, apart from the beatles the bee gees are the only group to have five hits in the top ten at one time.
his songs are still widely used in movies to this day

— dean · Jun 27, 06:34 PM · #

How many of these songwriters have actually written and produced million selling albums for other artists? none that I know, that is why Barry Gibb is the nuber one songwriter in my opinion.

— Slugman2000 · Jul 7, 08:21 AM · #

Barry Gibb is an absolutely incredible songwriter. As slugman2000 pointed out, Barry has written and produced so many albums for other artists – the guy is a genius. The way his melodies go with the lyrics he writes is just unbelievable.

— John · Sep 13, 03:39 AM · #

BARRY GIBB IS BY FAR THE BEST SINGER-SONGWRITER EVER!! NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. MUCH BETTER THAN MOZART, LENNON, ETC. ETC. ALTOGETHER. HIS UNIQUE SONGS, APART FROM CHARTS, AND THE WAY HE PERFORMS THEM ARE OF THE HIGHEST QUALITY. HES THE GOD OF MUSIC. .

— SOL · May 21, 07:04 PM · #

I have a new favorite composer, who no one that I’ve mentioned him to has even heard of: Antonio Carlos Jobim. His most famous songs are The Girl from Ipanema, Desafinado, and Aguas de Marco, but he has a fairly large catalog of brilliant songs beyond that. I suggest Wave for a good introduction.

Andrew Swihart · May 23, 07:35 AM · #

Barry is in my opinion the greatest writer, although closely followed by Lennon/McCartney, Wilson and… yes Jobim as well, although I find it rather silly comparing pop/rock and bossa nova. However, Barry didn’t write “You’re The One That I Want” as mentioned in the list above… John Farrar did!

— Martin Larsen · Jul 16, 06:50 AM · #

Yes Barry Gibb is certainly the main man,he was writing hit songs at the age of 14! pure genius!

— Goblinshead · Jan 10, 05:51 AM · #

I love the music of Barry Gibb.

And in his youth BG’s looks triumphed over Lennon and McCartney any day. He was handsome as well as supremely talented.

— Linda · Jan 26, 01:44 PM · #

I agree that Barry Gibb is the top songwriter of all time, the man is a genius.

— 17DJLOVER · Feb 3, 09:45 AM · #

how deep is your love

precious · Nov 1, 06:11 PM · #

Barry Gibb and his brothers are without a doubt the best songwriters ever, and that includes Lennon and McCartney whose songs in my opinion lack the same quality. The Bee Gees are the only singer songwriters who have performed and written songs which are beyond comparison…. Awesome!!!!

— Steve Bradshaw · Dec 5, 10:56 AM · #

Barry Gibb shouldn’t be referred to as a sole writer as he was mainly part of a songwriting team with his brothers Robin & Maurice. He may have been the leader or main writer if you will, but the Bee gees were very much a joint songwriting effort. Robin & Maurice were excellent songwriters in their own right, particularly Robin, and as brilliant a songwriter as Barry was his work with his brothers was almost always better than his work without them.

— BifLoman · Jun 21, 09:19 AM · #

Andrew, it’s time to marshal a fact in response to my post. Or failing that, delete it again… I wonder which you’ll be able to do :)

Barry Gibb is the second most successful songwriter in modern music, by the objective measures described by Jake Martin above, behind only Lennon and McCartney. He was also ranked second by the Guinness Book of Records — I believe based on similar (perhaps identical) criteria. But those measures are limited. We could just as well count top-5 hits, or top-10s (and some listmakers do). Including the extensive body of songs that Gibb has written and produced for other artists, and continues to, places Gibb well ahead of Lennon and McCartney — who, of course, are two people. Barry Gibb (one person) has therefore been more successful than any other songwriter in modern music, and easily so. That’s why he makes “a claim like that on his website,” as you keep repeating. Brian Wilson? Not in this league by any objective measure, and you’ve provided no criteria suggesting otherwise.

— Tidewater · Jul 23, 03:51 PM · #

The Beatles had the knack for writing truly great pop/rock songs.
Brian Wilson and Barry gibb had similar amazingly different chord structures and in Brian’s case even orchestral arrangements. But Brian wasn’t the primary lyricist just melody make. How deep is your love is one of the most beautifully complex songs in my option. More than a woman etc.. Very romantic. Pet sounds best album. Beatles best band. Saturday night fever best movie. Lest leave it there. Lol. All three deserve equal respect regardless of chart position. Check out “ don’t talk( put your head on my shoulder) if your scratching your head about Brian.

— G swift · Mar 22, 03:30 PM · #

Let’s get our facts straight about Pet Sounds, a very lyric-driven album. Brian wrote the chord structures and arrangements. Tony Asher wrote every word on that lachrymose album.

McCartney and Barry are both great. I must say Paul’s songs are simpler, while songs like “Guilty,” “Too Much Heaven,” or “Tragedy” have relatively complex structures. Barry may be the greatest commercial songwriter, because the Bee Gees’ goal was always commercial success. Paul with the Beatles and sometimes solo was a bit more experimental.

However, the Gibbs’ range is enormous, from soul ballads, funk like “Jive Talkin’,” disco as we all know, to adult contemporary pop – which may be where Barry excelled the most.

So, it’s kind of hard to say. But I think the point is: the Bee Gees deserve an enormous amount of credit for their amazing career.

While I love the Beach Boys, including songs Brian didn’t write like “Disney Girls,” they were a bit inconsistent with some forgettable albums.

Ultimately, claims of “who’s the best” are a bit silly. We’re blessed with these brilliant artists.

— Forshorn · Mar 24, 11:28 AM · #

Brian Wilson, the Beatles and Gibb are all great but how can any of them claim to be better songwriters than Bob Dylan? No one can touch him in that department. If you want proof just check out his bootleg series of unreleased songs.

— Alex · Nov 24, 02:55 AM · #

I would suggest that Billy Joel is in the top 3 greatest songwriters as he wrote all his hit lyrics and music. As for lyricists I would suggest Neil Peart “drummer for Rush as possibly the greatest of all time.

— Scott Roberts · Feb 7, 01:00 PM · #

It’s not just the amount of money he’s made or how well they’ve done in the charts, it’s also the fact that he has the most covered song catalog of all time – after The Beatles. Fact. Thousands of singers have recorded his songs.

Look at some of the incredible artists (listed below) that have recorded songs that he wrote.

And he has no ego at all – unusual for a guy with that much success.

Elvis Presley, Frank Sinatra, Tina Turner, Janis Joplin, Dionne Warwick, Nina Simone, Dusty Springfield, Aretha Franklin, Elton John, Kenny Rogers, Dolly Parton, Paul McCartney, Andy Williams, Roberta Flack, Roy Orbison, Barbra Streisand, Eric Clapton, Cher, Tom Jones, The Animals, Rod Stewart, Celine Dion, Barry White, Destiny’s Child, Michael Buble, En Vogue.

…..And there are thousands of others. I could go on forever.

— Jamie · Apr 16, 06:22 PM · #

@Andrew – it isn’t ‘‘one man’s claim’‘, it’s fact. End of! His figures which are freely available in the chart books and from the RIAA state that he has written more million selling singles than anyone accept John Lennon and Paul McCartney. And he wrote all those songs himself with a guitar – unlike all of todays producers who create a track, bring in a songwriter to write a song over the top and take 50%, they are scum. Do some research and stop taking the piss and ‘finding it funny’. A lot of people think The Beatles are shit too, you know.

— Angelina · Dec 16, 03:36 PM · #

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